Posts by new boy

inspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.. after going from being a self rightious pioneer and bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.my years drifted by me.

i had been a watchtower slave for over 50 years.

one day at a time, i sold my soul.

new boy

Inspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.

After going from being a self rightious Pioneer and Bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.My years drifted by me. I had been a Watchtower slave for over 50 years. One day at a time, I sold my soul. So how could I leave after 50 years? A 27 year marriage, two kids, family and the only friends I ever knew....The answer is.... I could'nt, I didn't have the balls to.

I thought "O.K I don't believe it, but my life isn't so bad, good marriage, great job, great kids and friends." How could I lose all of them and go on?.....Give up all that, just for the sake of "being right."

So, I tried living the lie...and it worked for many years. But the bullshit got worse...The politics and clicks the hypocrisy and favoritism, in the Kingdom Hall.....The biggest thing being the major "lack of love"..... And Hay isn't that supposed to be their identifying mark? Well guess what...it wasn't there..and it wasn't at Bethel either! (read by Bethel experiences)

My wife bless her heart, knew for years I wasn't buying the program. I tried talking to her....but you know how it is...she would get this glazed look in her eyes and start reciting the "but were else can we go, this must be God's organization" bullshit. She looked like a deer in head lights, the poor thing was raised in the insanity just like me....The difference is she stopped thinking years ago...With her...it was all knee jerk now.

So it all came down to "The Big Chill" on the last weekend of July 2001. We had about 25 Witnesses from all over the states, come to our home for the weekend. Grace Fraizer, Jim Pells, Kelly O'Brien, Doug Ava, Bob Nelson, Dan McGloffen....and all their wifes. Yes all of my really 'good' friends. Lots of good food and drink.

During one of our many conversations with the group. I mention that I felt "That the society was losing the young people in the organization.".....Well before the weekend was over, two people came up to my wife and asked her how could stand to be with someone like me!

Monday the 30th of July, I got back from taking the last of the people to the airport. I was sitting in the living room thinking how strange the whole weekend was. I got up and went into our bedroom she was the next room taking a bath. I started talking, she had the strangest look in her eyes, she was staring at the ceiling and saying nothing....she finally said "The friends want me to go camping with them" I said "Great go, I need to stay and work."

I got up and went back to the living room....and set there. A few minutes later, she came out to the living room, with a robe on and that same strange look. Neither of us said a word, she came over to me and kissed on my cheek. She turned and walked back in to the bedroom.......I KNEW AT THAT MOMENT THE MARRIAGE WAS OVER!......... don't ask me how I knew it....I just did.

Next morning I hooked up the "See Doo" to her car. She jumped in the car, the window was rolled down she put the car in drive and was heading out of the driveway. I said "Hay after 27 years don't you want to at least shake hands or something?" She stopped the car got out. We both held each other and cried....Nothing else was said, she got back in the car and drove away...she was gone...

Two days later she called be and said she would come back only when I got my additude straighten out about the church...

I said "I can't do it anymore."

With the possiblity of losing everything I ever loved.....I just couldn't do it anymore.

P.S. I did lose everything....but I got my two kids, they were treated so badly by their "friends" because I left....They left too, they said "This is bullshit Dad...we are out of here...and besides we only did it for you guys it was never real to us."

P.S.S. So was it worth it....my answer is YES!.....Don't waste another day....don't waste....50 years like me....one day at a time...saying to yourself "It really isn't all that bad."

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Dress & Grooming for visiting Bethel. scans inside!!!!!11 LOL

by karvel in

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new boy

Watch how you talk and watch how you walk.....and watch what you do and watch you say.

Hal 9000

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My nightmare about the future

by Layla33 in

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i had a nightmare last night that was pretty vivid and i just wanted to record it, in case it might actually happen.

i am not saying it will, but i have had dreams in the past that have actually happened, which kind of scared me, and i have tested my "abilities" and i am mildly clairvoyant.

actually, as i have meditated more, i have been able to clearly tap into my senses.

new boy

The United States government will fall. It is not a matter of "IF" but "When"...All world powers have ended...this government will be no different.

Personally I think sooner then later.

The next 10 years will be more interesting then the last 1,000!

My dream, is of a world with no governments and no religions too.

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JW divorce rate higher than adverage - pew forum

by drew sagan in

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one statistic that i haven't seen talked about that was contained in the pew forum research poll was divorce rate.

i was kind of shocked to see that when it comes to the percentage of members who are divorce jw's pulled an extra 2% over the national average.

in this research poll only three groups come in higher than jws and two of them go under the categories of other christians & other faiths.

new boy

Great thread

I remember being an attendant and looking at people sitting there in the hall and noted about 20%+ of the people had been divorce at one time.

Urban myth Jehovah's Witnesses "Good" marriages.

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My Bethel Experience Part 18

by new boy in

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this is the fun one......... health, dismemberment, death (natural and unnatural) murder and suicide.. well its sunday afternoon, portland oregon, february 18, 2007.........its been 34 years,.......i 'm just drunk enough, excuse me,.....i mean "self medicated"enough (p.s.

juni sweet heart.... i love you), to start writing this chapter.........the people at bethel were killing us spiritually!.......and sometimes they killed us physically too.....i'm not letting myself of the hook...i was there and i was as bad them..............no, i'm sorry i was worst then them......and why?.....because i knew better....those bastards didn't know any better .......we need to send them some love........the thing they can't give us ................we need to give them......... love............. "thats all you need" .

first off....... when you go to bethel, you sign a document stating that if you die while you are at bethel, the society has "the right" to keep your body.........most people, just sign it and forget about it, but don't you think that is just a little strange?..........i did.

new boy

This was my favorite chapter by far, because how can we condemn other people if we did the same thing ourselfs, we need to give everyone time to figure it out right?

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My Bethel Experience Part 17

by new boy in

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more "odds and ends".

i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he knew when to curse at the right time.

i think, thats why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with debbie's parents.......he seemed "cool" and down to earth.............he might have been bit of a racist though.. one time a self righteous (known as sr) new boy, went to him and complained about what he heard in the bindery..........."brother swingle" the kid said "i heard some brothers cursing, in the bindery!

new boy

For the new folks. One year and one week ago...

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Part 2: OMG - I did it - I told my Mom and Dad how I feel...

by Princess Daisy Boo in

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5 days after the big showdown with my mom, she called me today.

well she is a bigger person than me - i certainly did not have the guts to do it.

we made a bit of small talk and then she brought up saturdays discussion.

new boy

You can always just do the fade thing too...My daughter did, it worked out O.K. My son did the DA thing which is the big F*** you..

In the end their mother hasn't talked to either one of them in the last 6 months...choosing her "friends" to her own "real" family.

Hang in there my friend...life will get better.

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My Bethel Experience Part 16

by new boy in

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we are nearing the end of the journey.......so this next two chapters will be called "odds and ends" or things i didn't put in the right chapters..........because i thought of them after those chapters were written..... bethel joke.

three guys are sitting around, each drinking a large glass of beer.........a publisher, a pioneer and a bethelite.......just then, a fly lands in all three of their glasses of beer........the publisher....pushes the glass away and says....."i can't drink this now"...........the pioneer looks over........picks the fly out of the beer and keeps on drinking............the bethelite.........picks up the fly by it's wings and holds it's head over the glass and says "spit it out......spit it out!".

one guy, who didn't spit it out.........we'll call him bob.......went to my roommates polish wedding, in green point.......now those people know how to put on a wedding!

new boy

Just for the new folks here... It's been a year...